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yunfeng 01-02-2006, 1:38
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hehe, wish every one a happy and prosperous 2006. I will try my best to gain some weight!
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季然 01-02-2006, 2:56
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我刚看过<千里走单骑>了,还好啊.可是它并不能称得上一部很不错的电影,甚至它的故事情节对我来说毫无悬念和毫无吸引力.就这样.
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我觉得张艺谋此次拍摄并没有艺术的火花和智慧的显现,回归,更谈不上,他明明是在亿万观众面前装.
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我欣赏我偶像的一句话:有一种人是需要一些参照物来证明自自己的,这种人的唯一特征就是不自信,所以我们看到张艺谋、陈凯歌一直在用他们电影有多大投资、有多大票房、开多大的首映式、用多大腕的名星、是否获得奥斯卡提名来证明自己,一个需要这些外界参照物来证明自己的艺术家已经不是艺术家了,也肯定已经不自信了。
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看过<无极><千里走单骑><情癫大圣>,我觉得一段时间,我不会看华语电影了.
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wellbobo 01-04-2006, 5:24
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无极根本就是一部喜剧片嘛
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不知有谁看过没 那个 无极真相:一个馒头引发的血案
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savagextakuya 01-04-2006, 9:42
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各位:新年好!
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yunfeng 01-04-2006, 10:50
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en, Jiran and wellbobo, you both have very good points on the recent movies.
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the link above is a blogger here called X-men's space. Check it out, see if you can find something new.
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季然 01-04-2006, 16:33
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看过了,我觉得那个朋友的博客不错,主题很明确,很为他的坚持佩服.看来是个非常爱电影的朋友,但是对于他的观点我觉得有几点不能苟同:
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我不想人云亦云的称它为魔幻大片,因为它带给你的感觉并不想西方的《指环王》也不像我们的《封神榜》,但对《无极》的欣赏决不能流于表面.5ê¯X(v¸½üËenpf.chinabroadcast.cnï±úô¾
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我觉得<无极>根本不能跟<指环王><封神榜>比,在期待它之前,我想大多数人不会认为它会超过<指环王>吧?还是把它当作中国本地电影比较好.当一个电影没什么内涵或者大众了解不了它的内涵时,我们能看它的,无非只能是它的表面.5ê¯X(v¸½üËenpf.chinabroadcast.cnï±úô¾
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2.如果像《如果·爱》那样平淡无味的话,即使是再好电影,也离死期不远了。 5ê¯X(v¸½üËenpf.chinabroadcast.cnï±úô¾
谁说<如果.爱>反映平淡?5ê¯X(v¸½üËenpf.chinabroadcast.cnï±úô¾
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3.。《无极》的人物剧情模式还停留在陈凯歌从前的定位上,光明那种粗糙的莽汉有段小楼的影子,无欢的模糊性别和阴阳怪气有程蝶衣的影子,鬼狼的矛盾和变态也有《霸王别姬》、《风月》和《刺秦》的影子,至于倾城,陈凯歌让他纠缠在男人当中,也不还是以前他电影的模式吗?5ê¯X(v¸½üËenpf.chinabroadcast.cnï±úô¾
他应该是大大的低估了陈对人物的定位了.难道他眼里的陈,只是个死抱住自己辉煌树的导演么?5ê¯X(v¸½üËenpf.chinabroadcast.cnï±úô¾
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4.陈凯歌要么真的已经退回到两千年前,要么就是已经赶超到两百年后在表达他的想法,但是对于眼下的观众,很难明白他想要告诉观众什么。5ê¯X(v¸½üËenpf.chinabroadcast.cnï±úô¾
如果是一个连自己拍电影都不知道给谁看,告诉谁什么的导演,那他花费那么多钱岂不是超级诈骗犯?5ê¯X(v¸½üËenpf.chinabroadcast.cnï±úô¾
当然,大部分是同意他的,觉得他形而上学,内涵跟故事的辨证等观点都很不错.至少,他能看清楚一些东西,我是比不了的拉.5ê¯X(v¸½üËenpf.chinabroadcast.cnï±úô¾
讨论电影很有意思.嘿嘿...是不是 yunfeng GG5ê¯X(v¸½üËenpf.chinabroadcast.cnï±úô¾
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orange 01-04-2006, 16:49
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看电影和谈恋爱的感觉是一样的,如果感到心跳,就说明喜欢,如果没有,就说明这个电影不好看——至少对自己来说~~~
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savagextakuya 01-04-2006, 16:59
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关于2.
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——似乎不是指“反映”平淡吧。是不是指故事的平淡无味?
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我一直有这么个感觉:中国的电影往往有点不伦不类的感觉。
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导演都很想把电影搞得很有内涵很有深度的样子,借助了许多的典故啊,服饰道具啊之类的暗示
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可是最终确还是想牢牢地抓住票房,收回制作成本。
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而这两者之间的矛盾没有很好地统一起来就使影片变的很奇怪。
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那些电影人究竟想干什么,究竟要做什么,我还是不知道。
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其实不是所有看电影的人都想了解一个深奥的内涵和复杂的典故的,有些人只是把电影作为一个entertainment,无关人生,无关哲学。只是让自己的神经得到放松。而另外一部人是希望看到严肃的、有一定深度的,或者能够汲取到养分的作品,对于他们来说,内涵成为了关键,形式只是一个辅佐。
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遗憾的是: 不少电影人的贪心与急功近利使得他们不愿意在两方面中有任何一方面的损失,于是便出现了让两类观众都无法接受的电影。
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就我个人而言,我希望看到的是:导演在拍影片之前能够抉择好他想要哪类人看他的电影,或者说他想拍给谁看。
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wellbobo 01-04-2006, 19:29
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赞同楼上的见解!!
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但是对于“导演在拍影片之前能够抉择好他想要哪类人看他的电影,或者说他想拍给谁看。”我认为这根本就是一个市场营销的目标市场定位的问题,可是对于导演来说RMB are all the same, nomatter whose pocket they come from.在宣传长袖善舞的时代,本来什么样的片子吸引什么样的观众是一件很单纯的事情,而现在只有两种观众:被宣传吸引的和不被吸引的,所以了,这个定位根本就不重要了。
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其实中国电影也不容易,好不容易市场出了一本考纲说大制作造就大辉煌,人家不过学学,否则考试怎么及格乃至拿高分啊,如此而已。
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savagextakuya 01-05-2006, 9:19
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最后一句还真逗!:)
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savagextakuya 01-05-2006, 9:24
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或许所有的电影人都在挣扎,只是在这里我们看的真切些。
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而抑或是所有市场从诞生到成长的一个必经的过程,需要我们的耐心。
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yunfeng 01-05-2006, 12:03
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yeah, it is really fun to talk about movies always, especially with you guys.
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Quite fantastic view points above.
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I love watching movies. For me, to watch movies is a way to see our dreams. And probabaly it is also because the film is the a kind of art that combines all art forms: literature, photography, music, drama and etc. that I share interets in.
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How about you guys? why do you like movies?
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Rauly 01-05-2006, 14:56
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forgien movie creats me an english envienment!I'm curious about all kinds of cuntures!as for chinese movie,I like jet li and his action film.the important is that watching movie makes me relaxed!
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savagextakuya 01-05-2006, 16:00
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good question, yunfeng!
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why do i love movies?
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em....to me, i wanna gain some confidence, courage and sparkling great idea.
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wellbobo 01-05-2006, 16:59
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Sir ,shall I answer the question?
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Actually, I share the same views with Yunfeng.All movies are fantastic dreams for me.I can find the neverland for my wild imagination.Sometime it's more like a trip to experience all the possible and impossibles.
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On the other hand, I'm a greedy girl.A good movie where all the exciting parts,the varied arts,the story,the idea,the acting,etc, concentrate is a good choice.
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